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Happenning 269 life - Crow Cotton branding by Xandrah-Octopus Happenning 269 life - Crow Cotton branding by Xandrah-Octopus
Launching of the "269 life" local branch (Lyon - France), where activists got branded with a hot steel brand, in the same way farm animals are branded in farms all over the world.
More informations about "269 life" :
English : www.269life.com
French : www.269life-france.org/
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Given 2015-02-12
Happenning 269 life - Crow Cotton branding by Xandrah-Octopus 
How far would you go for what you believe in? ( Featured by tanikel )
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MatthewVictor Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
He has already branded himself with tattoos, what difference does this make?
Anyhow, my horse was branded. I can tell you, it is only the hair.

Also, don't go on to talk about ' the general treatment of animals' rubbish
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Xandrah-Octopus Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
cool story bro.
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Mistilda321 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
When they brand animals they only burn the hair so it doesn't hurt them... But people aren't so lucky
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What, of course they burn the skin. It's not only about brandings, but also about the overall treatment of animals. Just look at this: youtu.be/ql8xkSYvwJs
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Mistilda321 Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not ignorant, I know what people do to animals and I know many people are cruel enough to burn the skin, but for the most part it's just the hair. I'm not trying to start a fight here
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Ga-Maleven Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2016  Student General Artist
You should really do more research... They burn the skin. That's how it works. Burn the skin and it scares it, thus leaving the brand on the animal for the rest of their life. And if just the hair is burnt, why do they scream in pain?
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CutieDeidara Featured By Owner May 11, 2015
Great picture, important message!
I love it! Thank you for sharing!
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Xandrah-Octopus Featured By Owner May 11, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
You're very welcome =)
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d4174179 Featured By Owner May 8, 2015
Congrats! Thank you for sharing this and speaking out for others. :hug:
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Xandrah-Octopus Featured By Owner May 8, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you so much =)
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KreepingSpawn Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Intense!  I am impressed.

DD well deserved for raising awareness!
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Xandrah-Octopus Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you !
I 'm glad you like it =)
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ravekitten Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes because someone being branded like that makes me want to save the animals from being branded.

Great photograph though.

~K@
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not just about the branding, but also about the general treatment of animals. Just look at this youtu.be/ql8xkSYvwJs ;
Some people are able to see the parallels between sentient beings. If they think humans shouldn't be branded, they will realize that we should protect animals from harm as well. We're just so used to seeing animals being tortured and killed that we don't question our treatment of them anymore. If it's wrong to hurt humans, it's wrong to hurt animals as well.
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KageNoMozaiku Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
it's amazing what people will do for attention. 
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Xandrah-Octopus Featured By Owner Edited Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
WOW ! A DD ! i'm so glad :happybounce: 
Many thanks to your supportive comments.
If you wanna see more from this action, you can watch the entire album here :
xandrah-octopus.deviantart.com…

I was one of the photographers on this happenning, and it was a very strong experience.
I understand that everyone doesn't adhere to this way of expression.
But I know these people who got branded during this event (1 girl and 3 guys), and i can tell you they didn't hesitate a moment to hurt themselves, to be the voices of the voicelesses : animals.

I invite you to watch these two videos that made me vegan :
Earthlings 
earthlings.com/?page_id=32
French version : www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM_wAN…


And "Gary Yourofsky : The Most Important Speech You Will Ever Hear" (french subtitles optionally available) :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5hGQD…

Thanks again for the DD Blush 
I think the title given by tanikel is very well found, and i'm loving it : "How far would you go for what you believe in?"
(and sorry for my aproximative english Doh! )
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Katty93Cat Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
Very strong and... objective people.
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Lintu47 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Congrats on the DD! :dalove:
Have a nice day! :love: by CookiemagiK
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Xandrah-Octopus Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Hug 
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GearPhreak Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
But the only farm animals that get branded should be the ones with hides thick enough that they don't feel it. Humans on the other hand only have a thin layer of skin between the air and their easily harmed meat.
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Pakak1 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist
Wow.  This is quite a powerful picture..
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Spectral-Amnesiac Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Ouch. That's some commitment right there.
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mydragonzeatyou Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I have actua;;y always wondered what branding feels like and am plannin on experiencing it one day
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HK-0391 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015   Digital Artist
I'm assuming it feels like hot metal being pressed into your skin.
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mydragonzeatyou Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
eeyup. still want to try it
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coldfire0007 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015
thats my area code o.o
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juliet981 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Professional Photographer
powerful thought! how scared would we be, imagine the farm animals who sometimes have multiple of these. Im glad I do not contribute to that (im vegan). We can't convince people to stop eating meat, but at least know where it comes from. 
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Safyran Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As an omnivore I support the idea behind free range meat and will purchase when it is affordable but ultimately I have to go with what my wallet allows. I'm very well aware of what goes on in the meat industry, but our bodies are meant to eat both plant and animal matter. A vegan diet can be very dangerous (although I trust that you are well aware of this and have done your research to stay healthy). 
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Animal products harm us. They cause cancer, asthma, neurodermatitis, diabetes and more. Please watch this: youtu.be/30gEiweaAVQ
A vegan diet is no health risk at all. You can cover everything plant based.
Even free range animals have to be killed. For milk cows are impregnated over and over again until their bodies give up. After 4 or 5 years they're killed, although their natural life span would be 25 years. They're seperated from all of their children, otherwise they would drink THEIR mothermilk. But yeah, we want it, so bye bye calves. Male calves are killed a few weeks after birth since they don't give milk and raising them for meat doesn't bring enough profit. For eggs we grind up male chicks alive on the same day as they hatch. They won't lay eggs afterall. 
A vegan diet is cheaper than an omnivore diet, it saves many animal lives, it supports starving people (you need 16kg of grain to produce 1kg of meat, this grain is taken from third world countries), it protects the environment and it's actually healthy. Please watch this: youtu.be/ql8xkSYvwJs
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Andvili Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Not everyone can exist on a vegan diet, either. It is NOT a natural diet for humans to maintain.
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Ga-Maleven Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2016  Student General Artist
Actually, a vegan diet is EASIER for humans to maintain. It doesn't harm our bodies, doesn't use up a shit ton of resources, doesn't cause deforestation, pollution, or human starvation, AND is cheaper! Have you watched Cowspiracy? It's a great documentary that covers this very topic explaining how animal agriculture uses up all of our resources and how a plant based diet actually will save this planet. You can watch it on Netflix, and it may have even been uploaded on youtube. I saw it there once.
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Andvili Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't watch conspiracist "documentaries". Your diet causes the same amount of damage to the world that mine does. Now sod off already.
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Ga-Maleven Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2016  Student General Artist
Cowspiracy isn't a "conspiracy" film. It talks about how animal agriculture harms the planet, causes deforestation, harms your body, causes, human starvation etc.

No, my diet does not cause ANY harm, actually. No one was killed, raped, imprisoned, or beaten for me. No children are being left to starve as the grain they could be eating is fed to 70 billion livestock leaving 800 million people to starve and die. My diet doesn't cause forests to be destroyed to raise livestock on, nor kill wild animals for the same purpose. My diet doesn't give me cancer, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, clogged intestines, heart failure, or any of the other many diseases that animal products cause.

So, instead of trying to educate yourself you want to continue burying your head in the dirt and be coddled by comforting lies instead of opening your eyes to see the harsh reality of the world? Why don't you do actual research and you'll see that life isn't all about you. I live a compassionate lifestyle. I'm healthier for it, and no one is dying. The world is going more and more vegan every day. You can either be the change you want to be in the world, or be part of the problem. Because as long as people stay blinded to the truth, this world will continue to be fucked up.
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Andvili Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I said sod off fuckass.
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Ga-Maleven Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2016  Student General Artist
Aw, did you come up with that insult on your own? You must feel so proud of yourself that when you are faced with something you know nothing about, that instead of being a mature adult you go off insulting people and just show to the world that you are a little child. Is it attention you crave, little child? Is yelling insults at people who are nicer to others your way with coping for what you lack?
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Andvili Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh aren't you -adorable-. Did I hurt your widdle feefees, vegan?
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Animal products harm us. They cause cancer, asthma, neurodermatitis, diabetes and more. Please watch this: youtu.be/30gEiweaAVQ
A vegan diet is no health risk at all. You can cover everything plant based. 
A vegan diet is cheaper than an omnivore diet, it saves many animal lives, it supports starving people (you need 16kg of grain to produce 1kg of meat, this grain is taken from third world countries), it protects the environment and it's actually healthy. Please watch this: youtu.be/ql8xkSYvwJs
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Andvili Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
a) IDK where you live, but a vegan diet is NOT cheaper than an omnivorous one.

b) That grain is NOT taken from third-world countries, it's produced in the same region as the cows. Source: I live in Wisconsin. You know what's in Wisconsin? CORN, WHEAT, AND COWS.

c) Meat and animal products do not cause neurodermatitis, diabetes, cancer, or asthma. What the fuck is wrong with you.

Go learn some actual science and you'll understand how the world works. Your precious plant-based diet does more harm to the environment than the cows and chickens. You know what pesticides are, right?? And you know that 'organic' farming methods are more harmful to the local ecology than GMO methods, right?? Fucking children.
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
a) I live in Germany and honestly it IS cheaper. I'm not talking about the fancy vegan options, I agree, vegan duck meat for example costs more money. But the cheapest food on earth is vegan. Rice, pasta, grain, conserved vegetables. Tofu is cheaper than the same amount of meat. Chicken Nuggets, Schnitzel and some other stuff is actually cheaper than the ones from animals here. If you are from America, you've got the big prize, vegan options are more desired there so they can afford offering them for less money. America is basically the vegan paradise. But it's not just about money. You don't only save money, but also many lives! No money on earth can pay up for the death of an innocent being.

b) There is no way to feed so many animals locally. The rain forest is cut down for soy and corn (not for vegans haha, I make sure all my soy products are produced locally), which is imported to feed farmed animals. A lot of grain comes from third world countries as well. Please check out this site: features.peta2.com/making-the-… It's really easy to understand, not much reading, many pictures and stuff, super short. Or read these articles: www.peta.org.uk/blog/another-r…

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  • It takes 11 times the amount of fossil fuel to produce 1 calorie of animal protein as it does to produce 1 calorie of plant protein. This should be extra important to anyone with a brain during these days of gas shortages and rising prices.
  • If every person in the US replaced just one chicken-based meal per week with a vegetarian meal, it would be the equivalent of taking more than 5 million cars off the road.
  • If, for just one day a week, everyone ate only vegetarian foods, it would be like taking 8,000,000 cars off the road.
  • It takes 4,200 gallons of water to supply food for a meat eater for one day. It takes 300 gallons for a vegan.
  • To produce food for a meat eater takes 3-1/4 acres of land, whereas for someone following a vegan diet it takes 1/6 acre.
  • If you switch to a hybrid car you can save slightly more than 1 ton of carbon dioxide per year. If you switch from a meat-based diet to a plant-based diet, you’ll save nearly 1.5 tons. Think how much it would be if you did both!
  • The same amount of greenhouse gases is emitted driving an SUV 40 miles as eating 1 pound of meat." - www.naturally-healthy-eating.c…


    or watch this video: youtu.be/ZCzD4l9Whxk

c) Even the world health organization classified meat as a cause of cancer (www.cancer.org/cancer/news/wor…). I've got neurodermatitis and asthma from eating animal products. Especially milk triggers those diseases and allergies, which play a big role as well. I'm vegan for 3 years now and both, neurodermatitis and asthma are gone. Allergies improved a lot. I don't want to spam you with links, so feel free to ask for studies or something if you want more information. But I think the video I linked before sums it up perfectly. Please give it a try youtu.be/30gEiweaAVQ

I'm not supporting GMO or something, just because I refuse to kill animals. As I said, to produce 1kg of meat, 16kg of grain needs to be fed before. So I'm not only reducing the animal industry, but also the plant based food I'm consuming. There wouldn't be any need for any modification of food if more people went vegan, we wouldn't need that much food at all anymore and even erase world hunger.
I understand that it's very upsetting when you realise that you caused harm for no reason at all. Before going vegan we all had to face that we were the perpretators, tormentors and the monsters we judged so easily before. But please, I didn't give you any reason to insult me. I'm not a child, I'm not stupid and I'm not a troll who you can treat like shit. Please try to talk in a more respectful way to me if you do at all.

Of all the excuses, justifications, and rationalizations for NOT going vegan, I personally feel that this is the REAL reason most people don't make the change

Because it DOES demand examining ourselves in the harsh light of day

It demands we actually be accountable for the consequences of our choices and actions

It demands we live with a level of awareness most people spend their entire life tried to avoid

But ignorance is only bliss for the ignorant

The animals suffer and die whether we acknowledge them or not

Until we go vegan, WE are the monsters we fear
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Andvili Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, there's why, you're in Germany. A small country with a limited population that doesn't have to ship food very far. I'm American. In America, vegetables and shit like that ARE EXPENSIVE. Plus, there's this concept you probably don't know called FOOD DESERTS. Not everybody here -CAN- be vegan, because it's expensive.

You lost me when you started throwing PETA "facts". I lived in Norfolk VA for a while, that's where their HQ is. Pretty much everyone there knows that PETA outright euthanizes 98% of the animals they "rescue". They don't try to rehome them or anything, they straight up kill them. PETA is unscrupulous and does not give a genuine shit about animal rights.

And you're 22. You're still a fucking child, because you haven't lived in the real world where decisions have consequences and you haven't had to make a $200 feed 3 people for a month or longer. Feeding my -vegetarian- niece for a week cost the same as feeding -all three omnivorous residents simultaneously- for two weeks. Try and tell me again that it's cheaper. I've got bank statements and grocery receipts that say otherwise.

So fuck off with that "it's cheaper" attitude. It's not.

As for cancer and asthma, once again, you're wrong. The WHO classed liquid smoke as a carcinogen, not red meat, not cooked red meat. I read the frickin news reports on that when the ruling came out. And watch, science is going to come out in a few years to prove that wrong. Just like they did with -triclosan-, the reason we have superbugs. The WHO is not god, the WHO is made up of fallible individuals -who are capable of being wrong-. And even the air you breathe is a possible carcinogen. -Existing- is a possible carcinogen, because every time a cell divides, it has a chance of fucking up the DNA copying. 9th grade biology I learned this. Age 14. Yes, some factors increase that risk. But so does having certain genes in the first place. Are you going to advocate not aging or somehow getting rid of those genes just to prevent cancer?? Probably not, because that doesn't make sense. Neither does a vegan diet, when we evolved to eat pretty much anything we can get in our face. The human body does not completely digest plant matter because we evolved to where the appendix is a vestigial organ. I don't have a uni degree and I know this. It's called research, I know how to do it. You just shill links. Woooooooo.

I have asthma. You want to know what caused it? My parents' pack-a-day smoking habit. You want to know what triggers it? Pollen, dust, and cigarette smoke. You should look into what the placebo/nocebo effects are. I guarantee you that's what your problem is, not the meat. You're so convinced that a vegan diet is healthy and that meat is your problem that you're showing improvement . But the problems are still there, just as they always were and always will be, because there is no cure for asthma. At all. There's just -management-.
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As I said before, the cheapest food on earth is vegan, even in America. I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about people like you. Since you've got access to internet and enough time to write so much, you are able to afford rice, beans and noodles. If you still think, you can't afford it, here are some recipes, which are high quality, so still more expensive than they have to be: www.peta.org/living/food/vegan…  (Also vegetables and fruits are pretty expensive if not conserved here)

Peta advocates not killing animals. Why do you judge peta, while being perfectly fine with killing animals yourself? You don't have to like Peta to stop killing animals. If you think Peta is wrong, this would just be another reason to go vegan. However, they have to kill animals, because we overpopulate them, because we torture them to a point where killing them is the only humane solution. Just look at this www.peta.org/blog/euthanize/ But still, if you think killing animals is wrong, stop kililng them yourself before judging peta. If you think it's okay to kill animals, stop judging Peta.

"And you're 22. You're still a fucking child, because you haven't lived in the real world where decisions have consequences" Uhm, I don't know what you did when you were 22, but I live on my own since I'm 14. I DO realize that there are consequences to my actions. I DO live vegan, because the consequence would be me killing animals if I didn't. Me causing world hunger and environmental pollution. I care about the world, environment, world hunger, social injustice and animals. That's why I'm making decisions and value the consequences, instead of ignoring them.

Well, if you were smart enough to click these links, you wouldn't have to write such bs. The links explain why we are natural herbivores. I don't care what you evolved to, but since you can be perfectly healthy without killing animals, this is ethically wrong. youtu.be/30gEiweaAVQ Go and educate! You put a 2 year old child in a crip with a rabbit and an apple, let me know when the child eats the rabbit and plays with the apple. We are pure herbivores, we have no carnivorous or omnivorous instincts whatsoever and physiologically, if your jaw moves from side to side with a grinding motion and you chew, you are 100% herbivore. If you were a meat eater like a lion, your jaw would go up and down, rip and swallow. If you sweat through your pores to cool yourself, you are herbivore. 

I had asthma. Go vegan and you'll watch it disappear. Smoking is just one of many triggers. Milk is another one. Pollen and dust cause allergic reactions, which, as previously said, will be gone as well. Watch the video and you will realise the biological connections. It's not all about placebo. If someone shoots you, you can be full of good believes, the bullet can still kill you, if it hits the wrong spots. youtu.be/W4HJcq8qHAY Please watch this.
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Andvili Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
jesus christ you're a fucking idiot.

There is no cure for asthma. You still have asthma. It's called MEDICINE you weapons-grade numpty. There is no medicinal cure for it. You might THINK you cured it, but you didn't. If there was a cure, there wouldn't be MILLIONS of people the world over with it.

Seasonal allergies are affected by where you grow up. I grew up in the desert. Know what there isn't in the desert? TREES AND GRASS. Want to know what I'm allergic to? TREES AND FUCKING GRASS. If I go -back- to the desert, the pollen of the local flora won't bother me. Why? I GREW UP WITH IT. My body doesn't consider it foreign.

Stop linking PETA, it's not even remotely concerned with the welfare of animals. That's like linking fucking chemtrail papers. That's idiocy, it's bunk, and linking it means you lost.

Rabbits and chinchillas are herbivores. They do not sweat through pores. In fact, the only places I see any information whatsoever about herbivores sweating through pores are in vegan sites. No actual scientific sites. Gee, it's almost like vegans made that up to justify their vegetheism. OH WAIT. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DID. Fucking idiots.

Hippopotamuses are herbivores. They do not have sweat glands. They do not sweat. Pigs are noted omnivores. They do not have sweat glands, they do not sweat. Rhinoceroses are herbivores. They do not have sweat glands. They do not sweat. Cows eat grass. They do not have sweat glands. They do not sweat. Deer are herbivores. They have -very few- sweat glands. They do not sweat. Koalas are herbivores. They do not have sweat glands. They do not sweat. Rabbits are herbivores. They do not have sweat glands. they do not sweat. In fact, a quick lookup of sweat glands indicate that they are in monkeys, horses, and humans ONLY, at least in the proportions that produce real sweating. So there goes your "herbivores sweat" bullshit, right out the window because SCIEEEENCE!!! Most animals actually cool down via -panting-. Yes, like dear old Fido.

Our teeth are specifically designed for the consumption of meat and vegetables. The teeth of herbivores are like  our molars. That's for grinding the plant matter. Our front teeth are exactly like the teeth of carnivores, though our canines are shorter than theirs because -oh hey- we cook our fucking meat. Our jaws go up, down, side to side. By your logic that you just threw at me, that means we were meant to be OMNIVOROUS. Because HEY GUESS WHAT. We are. And the animals we evolved from? OMNIVOROUS. Or do you ignore apes' eating habits because you can? Do you not see the fangs on those fuckers? No, of course you don't, it doesn't fit your narrative. Chimps are closest to us. What do they eat? Fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, bugs, and the meat of small mammals. www.janegoodall.ca/about-chimp… This woman devoted her life to studying and understanding our cousins. They eat meat. Are you going to preach your vegetheism to them?

And again, I know the price of things in my region -because I fucking buy my groceries-. I -cannot- live on beans and rice, either. It doesn't provide all the nutrients my body needs. It does not supply sufficient protein, which I, as somebody who's fucking two generations off being a full-blooded Native American, need. My direct ancestors, my great fucking grandmother and her siblings, hunted for buffalo. They had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOFUCKINGEVER with the ecology of the land. They took what they needed, they used every bit of it, and they followed the herds. It wasn't until ignorant-ass white fuckers came along and fucked it all up that agricultural problems started happening here in America.

SCIENCE, BITCH! Fucking learn it. And then stop with the bullshit German 'guilt for everything ever' and get a fucking hamburger.
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FrankT Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
As a carnivore, I think it is extremely important to know under what circumstances the animal we are eating has led and ended it's life and to do our best to convince the farmers etc. that it is in theirs and the animals best interest to treat them with care and respect.  They will have much happier animals which taste better (sorry but it's true)
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Ga-Maleven Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2016  Student General Artist
There's no such thing as "humane" slaughter or raising billions of animals to be killed. Simply doesn't exist. Humans need to move onto a plant based diet not only for their health but for the planet as well since animal agriculture causes 51% of all pollution.

If you eat meat just for the taste, well, you can eat Beyond Meat. It's plant based "meat" that tastes like actual dead flesh. I tried one of their burgers and, seriously, it tastes just like a dead cow. It's kind of creepy, and interesting.

Have you watched Cowspiracy? It's a great documentary that goes over how the planet simply cannot sustain raising animals for meat and how animal products harm our bodies. You can find it on Netflix and I've seen it even on youtube. Go watch it and think about it. There's a LOT of great information in there to digest.
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Knowing the circumstances doesn't justify the action. For example it wouldn't be okay for me to rape anyone, even if I knew how they feel. There is no way to consume animal products ethically. Animals are killed for their meat. Can you imagine any ethical way to kill? Is there any way someone could kill you and you'd say "well this was very ethical, I don't mind"?? youtu.be/ql8xkSYvwJs
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FrankT Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
That's your opinion and you are as entitled to it as I am to mine.  I don't have to agree with it though. 
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Elanory Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can have your opinions, but we're not talking about what dress you should wear for prom. We're talking about ending someones life. If there is a victim, you can't talk about opinions. In my opinion it can be right to kill humans for stealing my cookies, but this will not justify murder in any way. Please try to see it from the victims point of view and ask yourself if you wanted to be seperated from your family, branded, castrated without any anesthesia and killed, just sothat anyone can have your mothersmilk, eggs or meat although they don't even need it for survival.
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FrankT Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
We will agree to differ then.  I am a carnivore and will continue to be one.  Veganism is not a natural state for humans, we are designed to eat meat
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Ga-Maleven Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2016  Student General Artist
Humans are NOT designed to eat meat. Meat actually HARMS the human body. Here, this doctor talks about it here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiw…

Humans have jaws that move in a circular motion. Only herbivores have these. We have weak livers for digesting plant materials, not meat. Our teeth are short and blunt for plant materials, not massive canines like a cat. Our intestine walls are lumpy, and intestines VERY long. Not short, and smooth walled like carnivores. Humans posses neither claws nor speed for catching prey. We are better for collecting plant material. Humans also do not possess a natural prey drive. You put a toddler in a crib with a rabbit and an apple, the toddler eats the apple and plays with the rabbit.

Humans are meant to eat plants, not animals. Do some more research and watch the video I linked above. LOTS of great information in there. You can also watch Forks Over Knives. It's about how animal products harm the body and eating plants heal you.

And also, let's point out all the vegan athletes and celebrities out there. From Torre Washington (bodybuilder), the William girls (tennis) to even Olympians who are vegan. And you have celebrities like James Cameron, Liam Hemsworth, Toby Maguire, Christian Bale, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ellen Paige, and many more. Samuel L Jackson went vegan to save his life because he had a sever blood clot. Going vegan got rid of it. He is now in a new vegan documentary called "Eating You Alive." Even Arnold Schwarzenegger said he's going vegan and that so far as he's been cutting back on animal products he's feeling better and better every day.

Please, do some more research on the subject.
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segura2112 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Well said.
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